no, it was not "as such expected to be freely admitted into the EU." this would have never worked due to EU border rules and realities.
it was a Invalid attempt. since at peking airport KLM would have stopped them from boarding plane because KLM had to check passports, matching identity via fingerprints plus passport-pix and visa prior to boarding and for 100% they would have seen that the passports were stolen and that they did not match with the two.
i ask myself, WHY they tried. naivity, wrong infos or they HAD TO BE on board of MH370?
i think this requires deeper dive into their story. keeli offered some good questions for that.
I don't know what you mean by "invalid attempt." Whether or not they would have succeeded, there's a pretty straightforward narrative available here: would-be immigrants obtain stolen passports and try to use them to go to Europe. For this story to seem strange, we'd need to have some evidence or expectation that these guys would have to have known that they would fail. And I just don't know how you would get that information. Their own parents didn't seem to give any hint of that. But there's another, deeper reason why I don't think this avenue is likely to be productive. Say you do turn up evidence that there's something fishy about these guys being on the plane. Where does that get you? You wind up at the same dead-end that motive-first theories always arrive at. There's nowhere to go. You can't explain how these guys could have hijacked a plane in the minute between "Goodnight Malaysia 370" and the turnback at IGARI, and you can't explain any of the six anomalies that we've identfied in Season One. So once again I will assert that if you want to solve the mystery of MH370 you have to start with the evidence and work from there.
"I don't know what you mean by "invalid attempt." " - the attempt to enter EU ground for seeking asylum. they would have never reached frankfurt, copenhagen or amsterdam airport. KLM would have stopped them at the gate to their plane. the question is why did they try.
"we'd need to have some evidence or expectation that these guys would have to have known that they would fail." - agree. so deeper dive into their story is imho needed. you already did this with the ukrainians and the russian. a great job. thx.
i think the iranians are worth it too.
"o have known that they would fail." - her mother already living in germany so with continoous contact to immigration office acccording to the rules of our german foregners laws is a HINT that they knew it.
these rules are the reason why millions of refugees do not use planes to fly to europe , which is the safe and cheap way but pay tons of money to human trafficker, use not working ships on the mediteranian see and die there. the hole thing is well known in the middle east and africa. thats why it goes this way. his is the second hint. and yes it has to be checked.
"we'd need to have some evidence or expectation that these guys would have to have known that they would fail." - closer to the truth? they COULD HAVE BEEN part of the russian team. or they just were naive kids with hopes too high. or something we don`t know now.
"you have to start with the evidence and work from there." - yes, agree. EU imigration rules and procedures they had to deal with are an evidence. ffor their story an important one.
"You wind up at the same dead-end that motive-first theories always arrive at." - i have no theory. at maximum some hypothesises. and no, i do not offer here a hypothesis or theory. i do not say, the iranias ARE the hijackers. what i say is, that due to not knowing the eu rules somebody may oversee that there is a deeper problem with the iranians' story and i invite people to dig deeper here. as a scientist to rule out that possibility. to falsify the possibility of the iranians beeing in nay qay guilty of the mystery of mh370.
immigration into EU is complicated, i know...
yes, it SEEMS straightforward. but its not.
no, it was not "as such expected to be freely admitted into the EU." this would have never worked due to EU border rules and realities.
it was a Invalid attempt. since at peking airport KLM would have stopped them from boarding plane because KLM had to check passports, matching identity via fingerprints plus passport-pix and visa prior to boarding and for 100% they would have seen that the passports were stolen and that they did not match with the two.
i ask myself, WHY they tried. naivity, wrong infos or they HAD TO BE on board of MH370?
i think this requires deeper dive into their story. keeli offered some good questions for that.
I don't know what you mean by "invalid attempt." Whether or not they would have succeeded, there's a pretty straightforward narrative available here: would-be immigrants obtain stolen passports and try to use them to go to Europe. For this story to seem strange, we'd need to have some evidence or expectation that these guys would have to have known that they would fail. And I just don't know how you would get that information. Their own parents didn't seem to give any hint of that. But there's another, deeper reason why I don't think this avenue is likely to be productive. Say you do turn up evidence that there's something fishy about these guys being on the plane. Where does that get you? You wind up at the same dead-end that motive-first theories always arrive at. There's nowhere to go. You can't explain how these guys could have hijacked a plane in the minute between "Goodnight Malaysia 370" and the turnback at IGARI, and you can't explain any of the six anomalies that we've identfied in Season One. So once again I will assert that if you want to solve the mystery of MH370 you have to start with the evidence and work from there.
"I don't know what you mean by "invalid attempt." " - the attempt to enter EU ground for seeking asylum. they would have never reached frankfurt, copenhagen or amsterdam airport. KLM would have stopped them at the gate to their plane. the question is why did they try.
"we'd need to have some evidence or expectation that these guys would have to have known that they would fail." - agree. so deeper dive into their story is imho needed. you already did this with the ukrainians and the russian. a great job. thx.
i think the iranians are worth it too.
"o have known that they would fail." - her mother already living in germany so with continoous contact to immigration office acccording to the rules of our german foregners laws is a HINT that they knew it.
these rules are the reason why millions of refugees do not use planes to fly to europe , which is the safe and cheap way but pay tons of money to human trafficker, use not working ships on the mediteranian see and die there. the hole thing is well known in the middle east and africa. thats why it goes this way. his is the second hint. and yes it has to be checked.
"we'd need to have some evidence or expectation that these guys would have to have known that they would fail." - closer to the truth? they COULD HAVE BEEN part of the russian team. or they just were naive kids with hopes too high. or something we don`t know now.
"you have to start with the evidence and work from there." - yes, agree. EU imigration rules and procedures they had to deal with are an evidence. ffor their story an important one.
"You wind up at the same dead-end that motive-first theories always arrive at." - i have no theory. at maximum some hypothesises. and no, i do not offer here a hypothesis or theory. i do not say, the iranias ARE the hijackers. what i say is, that due to not knowing the eu rules somebody may oversee that there is a deeper problem with the iranians' story and i invite people to dig deeper here. as a scientist to rule out that possibility. to falsify the possibility of the iranians beeing in nay qay guilty of the mystery of mh370.